Wikimedia Asia Meeting

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WIKIMEDIA ASIA MEETING
August 10, 2013
17:45 - 19:10
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== Attendees ==
===From Bangladesh===
* Tanvir Rahman [[User:Wikitanvir]] // Secretary, Wikimedia Bangladesh, Affiliations Committee
===From the Philippines===
* [[User:Sky Harbor|Josh Lim]] (WMPH; AffCom)
* [[User:seav|Eugene Villar]] (WMPH)
* [[User:Exec8|Butch Bustria]] (WMPH)
===From Australia==
* [[User:John Vandenberg]]
* [[User:Lankiveil]]
* [[User:Chuq]]
* [[User:Hawkeye7]]
=== from Japan ===
* [[User:Takot]]
* [[User:Kzhr]]
* [[User:Miya]]
* [[User:Miya.m]]
* [[User:akaniji]]
* [[User:whym]]
=== from Korea ===
* [[User:Ryuch]]
* [[User:Piotrus]]
== from Singapore ==
* [[User:Smuconlaw]]
=== from Taiwan ==
* [[User:Alexsh|Alex Lin]]
* [[User:Htchien|Ted Chien]]
* [[User:Shangkuanlc|Shang Kuan Liang-chih]]
=== from Hong Kong ===
* [[User:SusanLai | Rover Wong ]]
* [[User:SoHome | SoHome Jacaranda (????)]] /* Wikipe-tan Cosplayer #4 :-P*/
* [[User:Computor | Francis]]
* [[User:????]]
=== from Macau ===
* [[User:sdee]]
=== from Nepal ===
* [[User:Ganesh Paudel]]
=== from India ===
* [[User:Psubhashish]], Access To Knowledge Program, Centre for Internet and Society, India
* [[User:Visdaviva]] T. Vishnu Vardhan
* [[User:jayantanth]] Jayanta Nath
=== from PR China ===
* [[User:Addis Wang]]
* [[User:????l]]
* [[User:??|Ranyv]]
* [[User:EnSitu]]
* [[User:EnderViking]]
* [[User:JuneAugust]]
* [[User:fantasticfears]]
* [[User:wwbread]]
* [[User:Gawainus]]
* [[User:Gzdavidwong]]
* [[User:Yhz1221]]
* [[User:??]]
=== from Cambodia ===
* [[User:??????????]] (Vantharith), Khmer Wikipedia
===From Indonesia===
* [[User:Crisco 1492]]
===From Israel===
* [[User:Deror avi]]
===From Myanmar===
* [[User:Hteink.min]]
===From the WMF===
* [[User:Ijon|Asaf Bartov]]
== Minutes ==
=== History ===
* First organized by WMHK in 2010
** Founding members: see the list
** Discussed in Berlin, and founded in Gda?sk in 2010
* Page on Meta
*Nothing has really happened since then
=== Motives ===
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Wikimedia_Asia_Project
* Asaf's comments on Wikimedia Asia: Do something !
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Talk:Asian_Chapters_Meeting
Francis (HK):  Chinese Wikipedia conference [WMHK, WMTW, Chinese Wikipedians?]
Josh (PH): Conference is good. But need to set up some goals for the conference. What should we get from the conference?
John (AU): Chinese representation should add up
Francis (HK): Foundation focused on India, bring users up will be least controversial.
Butch (PH):  Start from simple thing. I am interest in articles of creating Chinese  provinces, or major roads. Make those into different language. Database  establishing programs.
Craig (AU): Agree. Start from easy tasks, sth. easy and achievable. Then we can tackle something more difficult.
Josh (PH): What does we want from this? 
Francis(:Non political, but easy said then done really.
Josh (PH): Agree topics on non-political
====What do we want to achieve?====
*Non-political
*Shangkuanlc(TW): Cultural heritage (accumulation of free knowledge; WLM/Wiki Loves Art)
**Asian cultures 
*Best practices for projects
*Conan (HK): Books of asian countries in public domain into Wikisource. e.g. Vietnamese books into Chinese Wikisource. China & India's books.
**John (AU): Texts every Wikisource should have 
*Shangkuanlc (TW): Open data in goverment of each countries.
*Maung (MM): Make it easier to contribute.
*Ganesh (NE): Tried to contribute an article in the English Wikipedia about a famous but deceased person using old books. [Notability]
*Vantharith (KH): A central calendar of events (BarCamp, conferences, etc.) and a list of skills
*Wikipedia Roadshow
**Technical challenge: difficult to translate into other languages.
Most of Asian countries have their own characters. Sometimes have difficulties: e.g. VisualEditor does not work properly; the PDF book creator does not work properly
** push foundation to do sth. about this.
*** Jack (SG): VisualEditor is still in Beta. Just a time problem.
**** Craig (AU): Help the foundation about Visual Editor.
****Conan  (HK): translation of VE for zh-hans/jp have been done. Such problems  (with relations with compatibility of Asian script fonts) can be  overcomed under our solidarity.
Francis(HK):We should show solidarity
Jack: Francis said "pressure group" with the Foundation.  The group can serve as an intermediary in content disputes.
Cheol (KR): Rendering; beta testing team for Asian languages
Deror (IL): Bug Amir Aharoni (bald guy with a big beard) for interface issues
Vishnu  (IN): It is important that we first compile a list and do priority  grading of the issues. I do not think bugging a single person will help.  There are clear steps listed out to resolve bugs on Meta.
Tanvir (BD): Contact Tomasz about PDF book creator
Vishnu (IN): Is there a link to the filed bug about this issue? Would be useful to have it.
Shangkuanlc (TW): We should broaden the discussion: not just the features, but what functions of Wikipedia can do.
*We want more users
*Friendlier environment for editors
*Training documents (i.e. Education Program)
*Teahouse
Maung (MM): Mobile editing difficult to contribute on Mobile phones.
Gawainus (CN): In a Guangzhou meeting only 1 girl showed up (gender gap)
====Broad things that we want====
*Jack (SG): Advocacy, sharing of best practices
*Chris (ID): Commons (we have been focusing on issues about text)
*Francis (HK): Wikimedia Asia "website", data/status sheet, Asian advisory board (no competition)
*Vishnu (IN): What can we do collectively? (government funding, advocacy networks, etc.)
Visdaviva:cultural level, educational level...
Visdaviva:finances, resources, projects on Wikipedia...that could be multilingual
Visdaviva:How to tap into these resources? Rather than technical issues.
Asaf: We don't meet between Wikimania and the Wikimedia Conference (Chapter Conference)
sharing resources, sharing programs
Butch (PH): We have social media
Conan (HK): Manpower -> let's start small
Eugene (PH): An "Asian" Wikipedia Signpost (newsletter) -> monthly? quarterly?
**Tanvir: can we sustain this?
Asaf: most of us don't share best practices -> we should do common projects (an Asian content exchange program?) 
==== 3 items we are going to do in the following 3 months ====
*Content exchange,
**Randomizer/lottery challenge of certain article.
*Visual Editor,
**Cheol(KR):  report on asian languages. the testing pool.
**Tanvir(BD): It's already there. Find the box and the link there.
**Cherol(KR): Bankpool & test group for visual editor? Spreadsheet for bug input.
**Craig(AU): Doing the testing with the team.
**Asaf: People complaing on Wiki needs to be translated for WMF to hear. BugZilla link.
*Chapter exchange,
**Asaf wants to see the translation! People only speak in English will help other language to paste.
**Piotrus(Poland/KR) want to volunteer. Get people onto front page.
=== Keep in Touch ===
*We are on Facebook!
**https://www.facebook.com/groups/wikimedia.asia
*Asian Chapters Mailing List:
**https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikimedia-asia-chapters
**Tanvir: Let's write something on the mailing list for 100 words. If I see enough people there, then we can do something together.
Craig (AU): Rename the mailing list to remove the word "chapters"?
**??(??):Rename the mailing list / Open the archive but close the mailing list.
*Francis(HK):Every country a Go To Person
=== Wikimedia Asia Project on Meta ===
http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikimedia_Asia_Project